Tuesday, August 04, 2009

Still Another rant

Pennie Leading Worship ... and ............. Pennie on her way to Fellowship meal

The rant I did the other day on Palin got me thinking about how we handle ideas we don’t like in this society.
Seldom do we confront ideas that are different from ours directly. That is we don’t say this is why we think this idea is wrong.
That would require thinking and some work to discover how solid our idea is.
Instead, since we know we are right and all good and right people should think like us we attack the person who made the statement.
We accuse them of being less than truthful. But we don’t ever bother to check where the real truth, if any, lies.
We call them crazy
We smear them in every way possible.
We make fun of them.
In the process we learn nothing.
But we feel good because we are right and we gave it to them.
We pat ourselves on the back because we dared to put them in their place.
But the ideas go unchallenged.
Destroying the messenger doesn’t change the message.
Somehow we need to learn to stop attacking and start arguing.
We need to make the ideas the focus not the giver of the ideas.
Yes Rush Limbaugh can be a jackass but some of what he says has the ring of truth.
Attack him and you don’t have to consider that truth.
Yes President Obama can exaggerate the problems trying to get legislation passed but much of what he says has the ring of truth.
Attack him as a socialist or communist and you don’t have to hear those truths.
But left and right the game is to attack and name call.
Too bad, because we have so much to learn from each other.


Anonymous Anonymous said...

I'm just going to sit back and watch on this whole episode. I am fearful now with this health care coming up that our taxes are going to be sky high. The money being spent...bank bail outs, helping the automobile industry, cash for clunkers...it's give give give...how are we going to pay for it? So I'll just sit back and watch for a while

1:39 AM  
Anonymous quilly said...

Amoeba provides me with an excellent check system. Whenever I make an assumption or decision based on missing or specious facts, he is always right there to challenge me to take another look. I think I'm slowly evolving into a "think it through" person.

1:49 AM  
Blogger Nessa said...

You are so wise. It is like we have never left the play ground.

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3:30 AM  
Blogger Dr.John said...

Thom- We can argue that what is being done is wrong without attacking the doer. There is certainly a legitimate concern over the costs. We need to raise those concerns.
Quilly- You are lucky to have a check system often the one's who love us feel compelled to support us in our stupidity.
Nessa- On the playground I got pushed around a lot.

4:26 AM  
Blogger PS (PSanafter-thought) said...

I'd hardly call this a rant, it is a right-on-analysis! I think that our schools have fallen short in teaching more about good logic and argument and looking for bias in what someone says. I had a class like that in high school, which has helped me all my life.

Some of the political complainers will still complain even if the whole economic mess helps their own state become an economic power house, because it won't fit their ideology.

I heard an analysis yesterday about the stance taken by the Republicans. The analysis said that with all the opposition that has been put forth, the Republicans now have a stake in the bailout programs, even the ones started by Bush. They'd have to change their stance to be happy even if it all works.

5:36 AM  
Blogger Melli said...

I completely missed your rant on Palin - had to go back and find it. Someone asked on their own rant about her the other day "when is she going to just GO AWAY?"... and I said... "when people stop talking about her." It's as simple as that. She has resigned. Now it's OUR job to stop GIVING her attention.

As for today's post... I agree with this in it's entirety! But again... the media feeds this. If the media would stick to reporting the facts without their opinion tossed in, then the people would discuss the facts! Or at least be more prone too. Yes, people will always form opinions! But we so rarely get "just the news" ... so instead we discuss the opinions that are fed to us!

6:13 AM  
Blogger Akelamalu said...

If you want to rant you go right ahead Dr. John. :)

10:46 AM  
Blogger PS (PSanafter-thought) said...

I mis-wrote on my previous comment. I meant to say that the people who are protesting and nay-saying what our current president is doing have a stake in having the president's programs fail. Which is to say, they have to hope that things go badly so that their side will look better.

1:08 PM  
Blogger Jill said...

Very well said. Just because we don't agree does not me someone else does not have a valid point. Before we decide we must Listen...

8:57 PM  
Anonymous Janet said...

If you hear anyone ranting about the Obama health care plan, you are to pass along information about the "misguided one" to flag@whitehouse.gov

Welcome to China.

5:54 PM  

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